Geoengineering Watch Global Alert News, November 7, 2015
While environmental groups and spiritual institutions continue to look the other way in regard to the ongoing atrocities in our skies, the all out weather/ biological warfare assault continues. Is it the fear of losing their "non-profit" status that keeps them silent? All the while the mainstream media weapons of mass distraction are taking their toll on the general populations ability to connect the dots, or even to care at all about what is unfolding around them. Who is behind the atmospheric spraying? Why is it being done? Why aren't we being told about it? The perspectives on these questions are discussed in this episode, and are imperative to consider. The power structure orchestrates the cooperation of those that carry out the climate engineering insanity by convincing them that it is for the greater good, this could not be further from the truth. Climate engineering is decimating our biosphere. On a geologic time scale the horrific damage already inflicted on our planet and atmosphere has occurred in the blink of an eye. Those who believe they will survive if the onslaught continues are not looking through a clear lens. Industrialized/militarized society and the human race has two options, a complete course correction, or near term extinction.
Dane Wigington
geoengineeringwatch.org
When the time comes they will have to hide down there in those underground tunnels. They are panicking now because so much of the Tyranny has been exposed and more people are taking this seriously.
I watch Lisa Havens on YouTube. She has some real good information on this Tyranny that is facing the Planet Earth.
Dane,
I had written Tru News and asked Rick interview you–so glad you got on the program–twice in one week.
This interview with this scientist is crucial, to at least state the truth. Once again, however, a scientist commits "suicide." OUr children are under assault–they are poisoned in the air, food, and through vaccines. The evidence that vaccines cause autism is overwhelming, yet as a school nurse I had to endure a pro-vaccine talk at our last school nurse convention on how we as need to make sure our children are all fully vaccinated, and the spokeswoman ridiculed any thought process that thinks otherwise. We are to be nazi nurses. We still have conscientious exemption in our state, but I know the powers that be want this gone.
I ran across prophesies by a Serbian Mitar Tarabich-who died in 1899. His prophesies are spot on and you can read them here. http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/profecias/esp_profecia07c.htm This is what he predicted about geoengineering in our world today: “Those who will read and write different books with numbers will think that they know the most. These learned men will let their lives be led by their calculations, and they will do and live exactly how these numbers tell them. Among these learned men there will be good and evil men. The evil ones will do evil deeds. They will poison air and water and spread pestilence over the seas, rivers and earth, and people will start to die suddenly of various ailments. Those good and wise will see that all this effort and hard work is not worth a penny and that it leads to the destruction of the world, and instead of looking for wisdom in numbers they will start to seek it in meditation.” When they start to meditate more, they will be closer to God’s wisdom, but it will be too late because the evil ones will already ravage the whole Earth and men will start to die in great numbers. Then people will run away from cities to the country and look for the mountains with three crosses, and there, inside, they will be able to breathe and drink water. Those who will escape will save themselves and their families, but not for long, because a great famine will appear. There will be plenty of food in towns and villages, but it will be poisoned. Many will eat because of hunger and die immediately. Those who will fast to the end will survive, because the Holy Ghost will save them and they will be close to God. I know this sounds dire, but I will continue to sound the alarm, and continue to trust God in all things. God bless you Dane, for doing the hard work and sounding the alarm for all of us. I pray for protection for you and your family.
it's sad to hear those who believe in the Lord saying He is in control and give up the fight
I think these Geo-engineering Mastermonsters actually do know the consequences of this so-called "shield." If that's indeed what it is. Because among other things, there IS research out there that has proven that the sprays disrupt the planet's hydrological cycle, causing drought and I've seen an article that reported this research, also done in Berkeley, CA but, like Mr. "Insider" himself, as well as his "interviewer," that article has amazingly just vanished…
I've concluded that the droughting is at least a very much-needed "side effect" of the spraying. Just take a look at what's gone on in the countries where this is occurring– nothing but drought. Qui Bono? As Dane reports, the severely-droughted countries topple to the Ill Will of the Evil Empire of the United States of Rogue America.
Then we have The Problem of all the LIES that Mr. "Insider" apparently "believes," such as the rationale that without spraying we will continue to have ozone depletion– never mind that we actually do know that the spraying has been a major cause of the destruction of the ozonosphere. "Take away our energy and our civilization will collapse…" YIKES!!! Yes– "civilization," as it has been defined for us, would collapse, never mind what we might actually create for ourselves, once the Ruling Monsters system falls apart, as it only could, which might actually be good for planet Earth. And we hear that we are all going to starve to death because without Big Agra there simply isn't enough food to go around, never mind that we have a U.N. report finding that most food on Earth is grown on small farms, and never mind what the "Green Revolution" (petrochemical fertilizers, and now GMOs) has done to destroy the food supply, not to mention our health. What's next? Crying about the death of the Infinite Economic Growth Paradigm, er, The American Dream?
So, um, let the murderers bring back life. As if they would know how.
According to this Deep Shield, this "insider," that is the "logic."
Makes perfect sense– as long as you're a demented psychopath, like "him."
I had to read this several times, and thank you Dane for clarifying in your podcast. It cannot be understated the great evil controlling our world. That being said, the resolve must be to expose them at every turn. Now the silencing of Dana Durnford who has tirelessly exposed the liars on Fukushima and the damage done. Support if you can, and share this video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7WwkddKt0SU
Found a million little fibers on my car late Oct 2015… showed up after a rainfall and there was some material that looked almost like mud with it… I'd just washed my car a couple days earlier so shocked it looked so dirty after the rain and with magnification saw the fibers… people are breathing these into lungs!
Hey Dane;
I live east. Our tree leaves are changing color irregular. Totally Brown and dead at the top lush and green at the bottom. Another plant smaller, yellow leaves at the bottom green at the top. It's November and that same plant is budding. The leaves look cohorst sprayed to change color. Some of my plants that are not suppose to change in color are light red. My hunch is that by now they have always had the ability to create an artificial fall. After storm sandy it was peculiar that our trees didn't have a fall look to them and our news never spoke about the change in tree color.
I live on the east coast in southern NJ, I witnessed the horrendous change in our skies/weather/foliage since hurricane Sandy. Prior to that I had noticed the constant overcast and the weird cloud formations.
I keep calendars of daily observations since. took photos in 2012 for months, documenting it and trying to send to NJ101.5, governor, etc., no response or feedback, by March 2013, I stopped watching TV all together, the stations I had watched like HGTV, had turned from instructional to "reality shows", so obviously scripted and the constant commercials. Early 2013, I still listened to NJ101.5 until one day the early "entertainer" was baraged by listeners regarding chemtrails and had to address, he downplayed and gave so much disinfo, after taking several callers, he became so irate and dismissed it all. a few months later, the meteorologist that had been very accurate and detailed about winds/fronts/ etc was regulated down to partly sunny/with clouds in the afternoon. Nothing about wind direction/incoming fronts/highs/lows, then abruptly announced his retirement within days. No coinicidences. Haven't listened to the radio since. Record low temps this morning of 25 degrees, after being in the 75-80 degree range until Sunday. The temps in southern NJ have always been 10 degrees higher in the fall thru winter months, yet we were 10 plus degrees lower than norther NJ and western NJ. The trees turned brown to bear here that first weekend of October, when we got this so called "noreaster" and "they" have been diligent every since to keep lowering the temps by icenucleated clouds and moving the jetstream, ever since. total whiteout here by 10 AM, to try and hide the low AM temps and what they would have actually climbed to. It is now about 65 degrees at 1 PM, regardless of the tons they have sprayed all day, the coverage is now starting to turn from white to grey, with "sun dogs" and HAARP rings. So it is apparent, "they" are now doing th icenucleation. I try to be as descriptive as possible of my observations as possible in my comments. You know that "they" are monitoring this website, and I feel like this is the way to give my testimony of the atrocities being deliberately manufactured on humankind to maintain "their" control of us
I think it would be really beneficial right now for those in "the know," to share a powerful health protocol to keep us strong, so that we are able to stay sane and strong and help as many as possible in going forward.
Hello Rosalie,
I would highly recommend checking out the following websites. All of these products have great value particularily because of the weather assault happening:
http://www.auumomega3.com
http://www.theedgeup.ca
http://www.progurt.com
There is talk about chlorella and cilantro for moving heavy metals, so perhaps you can google that. Best of luck!
You need away to get the omega3 into your cells. Check out the Budwig protocol.
National Geographics" November 2015 issue entitled "Cool It" covers the issue of Climate Change. They talk about carbon dioxide removal, stratospheric aerosols , space sunshade, marine cloud seeding and more man made attempts supposing being done to help countries and the problems they face with oceans rising, etc. There is nothing about how governments are responsible for what is happening worldwide. Their senior photo editor, Jessie Wender says in the magazine ""Photographing climate change was more of a thinking-about-photography assignment on how we can use photography to expess an idea and do it eloquently and anesthetically", under a photo sent it by Brooke Whatnail from Australia. I say if he wants photos on climate change WE ALL SHOULD send him photos of the spraying of our skies with link to Geoengineeringwatch. org. Maybe then Natonal Geographic would do a follow up issue in December ON THE REST OF THE STORY not being told…. .
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Rupert Murdoch bought NG and fired most of the senior staff. The are using this magazine to start the process of legitimizing geoengineering as the only way to save the planet. We must do like Anonymous did all over the world this past Thursday. Take to the streets…Calmly!
Hello Dane!
if you let it all in at once – it is Overwhelming!
I listen to your show every Sunday morning, and retrospect, and try to offer a 'way out' of this situation(s). It is extreme. It is the Armageddon of all Movies – IN REAL LIFE.
In some of those movies, all is lost until the last few moments prior to total destruction – then the miracle happens.
Dane, we who realize the truth you have brought us, WE are that miracle yet to happen. One step at a time, and each to his or her ability, we will effect a change – and I must believe this otherwise I will give up right now and lay down.
Dane, your work is absolutely amazing.
Having an aerospace background I am able to piece together situations with various companies I have been involved with – and get a bigger picture of the actual lies and deceit forced upon us. I study that picture. Sometimes I get ideas. Maybe one of those ideas will help us all. The Point is, no matter what the odds against having a Mother Planet Earth healthy again – we must pursue the righteous path that the truth has shown us.
Kathleen commented that she felt like weeping in despair – so do I Kathleen, and I do. I give the emotions a chance to surface within me, then use it for the strength to do more, to tell more people, to study harder, to find the chinks in the armour of the opposing force and exploit them for who they really are.
All my life I wanted to be a part of a great movement – from the Sierra Club, to Second Amendment groups – to save the whales – and I found inconsistencies in all the groups – something just didn't fit right. After a few years I gave up looking. Then Dane's; GeoEngineeringwatch.org website was introduced to me. It literally hit me like a ton of bricks.
At first I was skeptical – and this is good – as long as you continue to seek the truth, and not give up. Continue to study and share – there will be an answer one of you will find that will end this madness in a good way.
I salute you Dane.
Ray
I guess my concern is how to wake up mass numbers of people without causing panic. compartmentalization is precisely what has happened and has been planned all along. We have been conditioned for decades. I am still waiting for the results on the rainfall tests I collected last week. I don't know what the hold up is. What are your suggestions for mass communication when I get the results?
I also want to add that we need mass numbers of people to listen to this interview. I am thinking to pay people to watch it.
I monitor my area and I own a medical device that scans the Human Energy field and in the matrix is "bio warfare agents" that show up in the red zone. I know what it is and when I research it sure enough my clients are reacting to it via symptoms that match.
The inventor of the medical device was run out of the U.S. and cannot return BUT the device is now FDA approved not that we care for we know how corrupt they are also.
what is the name of this machine?
This story came up as a banner headline on Natural News just minutes ago:
Thermonuclear missile launch near Los Angeles is final sign of World War III on the precipice… US, China and Russia all escalating covert attacks in run up to global war
Sunday, November 08, 2015 /by Mike Adams, the Health Ranger / The official explanation is a lie
The "official" explanation of this event — and remember that "official" explanations are almost always cover stories — is that the U.S. Navy launched a test missile just because they "routinely" test missiles. … they fail to mention that the Trident missile normally carries a thermonuclear warhead. There's also no way for the media to know whether this missile was really unarmed or not, as the sole source on that question is the U.S. Navy itself. Apparently the media thinks the public is so incredibly stupid that they'll believe the U.S. Navy has nowhere else to launch a test missile other than right next to Los Angeles. Somehow we're supposed to believe the entire Pacific Ocean won't work for such a test launch, so they have to launch it adjacent to the airport and thereby inconvenience commercial aviation traffic for an entire week.
Obviously, the official cover story is pure bunk. So what's the real story behind this? It all has to do with China and the covert war that's already underway between China, the US and Russia.
http://www.naturalnews.com/051884_Trident_missile_launch_covert_war_with_China_first_strike_on_America.html
Thank you for sharing this, Susan. We live in California and we saw this thing. People were scared, but no, California wasn't "In a tizzy", or "Hysterical". We weren't all running around screaming and shooting each other as the media wants the rest of the country to believe. It IS interesting that people calmed down when they were told it was "just a missile". Oh, OK…apparently it's just fine that our tax dollars are spent making weapons of mass destruction while our infrastructure crumbles. But that isn't my point. If Russia and China and us are able to create a giant "rumble", that would surely kill off a whole lot of people real fast, just exactly what the elite are wanting. Just wait till they put Hilary on the throne! Sorry for my rant…I was so much happier believing the light was a UFO.
Dane,
Regardless, what I am going to tell you about is perhaps the most abhorrent and shameless assault on the freedoms and civil liberties of Americans and others in the free world in decades. It is so bad that it has the potential to severely curtail if not entirely eradicate your movement and plunge us all into the depths of an even more dystopian future.
The Trans Pacific Partnership – TPP is likely the most blatant attempt to establish a corporatocracy that the world has ever seen. This so called trade pact contains 29-30 chapters, only five of which pertain to trade. It was clandestinely produced and drafts were only shown to US lawmakers through a process of limited and controlled access to the information. TPP threatens, employment, wages, our environment and food supply to name a few. It has the potential to directly impact your movement by threatening the open internet and would facilitate censorship without question To make matters worse, it would punish and discourage whistleblowers who would otherwise expose wrongdoing.
TPP's evil wicked witch of the west is known as Transatlantic and Trade and Investment Program – TTIP and thus the people of Europe are threatened as well. There were huge protests against TTIP last month in Berlin and Brussels. The finalized TPP has been released and two US based non partisan groups. Citizen.org which seeks to protect the rights of citizens against corporate abuses and eff.org which advocates an open internet have both condemned it citing numerous potential threats.
I contacted you because I know that you and your community are passionate and committed to the cause, but it should be plainly evident how damaging this can be not only to your movement but to our way of life, should this be signed. TPP and TTIP would not be US laws as such, but they do require congressional review for signature as a bill would. Perhaps the best analog that the public at large can relate to is that of covenants in homeowners associations. HOA's are not formal laws but they are legally binding and are enforceable by signed consent which is exactly what the president and supporters of the pacts aim to do. The allure of these pacts to the politicians is that they promise money while trampling citizens and effectively legalizing corporate activities currently considered illegal, unethical or even immoral.
I regret any appearance that I am attempting to divert the focus of your efforts and your site but I believe that this is of the utmost importance to your battle and that these two pacts pose the greatest and most immediate threat to your cause. I urge you to post this and for anyone concerned to check out the two sources I cited above. I further urge all who are bothered by this to take action by contacting each of their Washington representatives and advise them to oppose these so called trade pacts when they come up for vote, which incidentally are to be fast tracked through. I truly believe that if signed TPP and TTIP would spell the end of your site and your battle, and I further believe that pressuring politicians to oppose it is one of the best ways to support the fight against geo-engineering and the forces that support in the short term by keeping you in the battle.
But what do we expect of corporations? They are designed to be a huge vacuum vortex for sucking up energy in the form of money. Money represents our labour and productivity. If someone takes too much of your money they are stealing your productivity that would normally serve you. We can theorise all we want that money could be a fair system, but the truth is that it will always be abused. It seems it was created for abuse and theft from others.
How could someone earn an excess million or billion or trillion fairly and equitably in their lifetime? They cannot. It has to come from others' backs.The TPP is just another step in the right direction for these corporations. They will be able to use the violent force of expensive litigation, bribery and corruption to try to get their way. Perhaps identifying their products and boycotting them is one way to disable them, but this requires a mass participation to get the mass effect.
These sociopaths will never stop, even as the ship is sinking. They are purely reactive. Only when the ship has sunk will they scurry off to save their skins elsewhere. Enough of the public simply has to abandon the products and services that these corporations sell. This will not be easy of course. They will try to force their sales upon us.
The normal process of treaty ratification was tried the last time the TPP came before congress and the outcry of their constituents made them back down.
However, this time they used an obscure process, although many question their interpretation of Article II, Section 2, Clause 2, that "these other agreements would not need to go through the procedures of the Treaty Clause. Instead, the President, in the exercise of his executive power, could conclude such agreements on his own." Thus the POTUS has the ability to enter into a legally binding with the full force of the Constitution international agreement. In other words we have been hoodwinked, again. It is already on the books and will, along with TTIP and the UN's agenda 2030, begin full implementation in short order.
Folks, we are far further down the rabbit hole than you might think. We, as Dane often says, don't have the luxury to sit on the fence. Nor do we have the time needed to mount any resistance. That ship sailed a long time ago, long before the skies turned milky white. Which in my area was about three years ago.
The UN troops are already here, in mass numbers and the camps are fully staffed and ready to go; ARE YOU?
There are several natural products available with silica and horsetail. Turns out horsetail grows wild in my yard! The locals think it's a weed, but I never feel any plant is a weed. So-called weeds usually turn out to be real big healers. Horsetail will be my next preventative strike against the Ratzoids — along with magnesium, chlorella, apple pectin, and colostrum. Maybe we will outlive the tyrants. If any of you have any other recommendations, please post.
Aluminum intake leads to dementia; silica intake decreases risk
According to the 1993 book Silica: The Forgotten Nutrient, by Klaus Kaufmann, silica can be found primarily in the following foods (Silica content is measured in mg.):
• Oats: 595
• Millet: 500
• Barley: 233
• Potatoes: 200
• Whole wheat grain: 158
• Jersusalem artichoke: 36
• Red beets: 21
• Corn: 19
• Asparagus: 18
• Rye: 17
Horsetail – top source for silica
One of the sources of silica not mentioned above is horsetail. Respected as a strong diuretic and astringent herb, horsetail is a fern-like, nonflowering weed that is loaded with silica. The tall, hollow stems resemble asparagus and often grow in bunches. When the plant begins to dry, silica crystals form in the stems and appear to look like feathery tails. This herb can be purchased as a dry powder and can be used raw to make tinctures. The silica content of horsetail is unmatched and is famous for helping people grow healthy hair, nails and skin.
With its high silica content, horsetail may also be good for removing aluminum from the body and warding off dementia.
http://www.naturalnews.com/043594_aluminum_dementia_silica.html#
I heard bamboo tea is really good too for metal detox.
Susan, as you say, horsetail has masses of uses.
"A weed is a flower that is growing in the wrong place".
Food grade Diatomaceous Earth (DE) is almost pure silica (with some beneficial trace minerals).
Great info, thanks. Just one note on an herb that is drying and diuretic, as well as diatomaceous earth, which also has a lot of silica and has been rumored to stop Morgellons, it may cause imbalance if taken by persons of the wrong constitution. If you already have dryness issues, I caution not taking things that can further imbalance your overall system. I recommend studying the Ayurvedic approach to herbs, which is in my opinion the most insightful and complete in terms of energetics and considering specific constitutions.
Diatomaceous Earth is a great way to get silica and to detox the body of heavy metals: http://www.earthworkshealth.com/How-Diatomaceous-Earth-Works.php
Dane
It’s not for me to say – but that may be the most powerful thing you've written. I'm not sure it’s possible to paint with less color and more truth.
For your consideration & since I don't have a gozillion friends on social media, I"m posting a link to my campaign to put up a billboard in Philadelphia. I did post a link to one of Dane's presentation as this was geared to the gozillions that do not know the facts. Thank you!;
https://www.gofundme.com/stopprayingus
PS: Eisenhower did warn us about this monster machine and we didn't think it was serious then and yet again.
Mu 83rd email to my contact list, titled 'Predicament?'
1. Guy McPherson writes: 'We're embroiled in numerous predicaments. By definition, none have solutions'.
He also states: 'The absence of solar dimming associated with reflective particles could cause an abrupt rise in global average temperature beyond that which has supported the existence of humans in the past (about 4 C)….. The rapid rise in global-average temperature occurs within days….. sans methane and its exponential rise in Earth’s atmosphere; sans 10-year “lag” in maximum heating from atmospheric carbon dioxide; sans nuclear facilities melting down catastrophically.
I’m not suggesting all humans will die within days after the ongoing collapse of industrial civilisation …Rather, that process is likely to require months, or perhaps a few years. But it’s difficult for me to envision Earth with humans in 2030, notwithstanding the IPCC’s fantasy technology.
Between now then, every year will be worse than the one before, except for the few who benefit from oppression abroad, obedience at home, and destruction of the living planet. Obedience at home is exemplified by thoughtless people still on their hamster wheels.'
http://guymcpherson.com/2015/07/near-term-habitat-loss-for-humans/
Also watch this Nov 6th compilation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRW45eaw28g
2. Mass extinctions have their bright side. Without them new life couldn’t emerge and take priority place. The early tetrapods survived the end of the Devonian extinction event, a time when many prominent vertebrate groups went extinct.
Without this line of vertebrates surviving, the reptiles and mammals would not have had a chance to evolve. Mammals rose to prominence after the decline of the dinosaurs, and thus we are here today, thanks mainly to these mass extinction events many millions of years ago.
https://theconversation.com/elementary-new-theory-on-mass-extinctions-that-wiped-out-life-48806
Maybe it is just evolution, or should that be ascension?
3. Saudi Arabia, which increased in population from around 4 million (1960) to around 32 million on the back of oil revenues and industrialised food, is now in big trouble.
Last week, in the latest sign of Saudi Arabia’s deteriorating financial condition, S&P downgraded the kingdom to AA- negative citing “lower for longer” crude and the attendant ballooning fiscal deficit…..
The Saudis are paying a heavy price to pacify the masses and ensure that some type of Arab Spring event doesn’t come to Riyadh. This puts enormous pressure on the budget which leads directly to pressure on SAMA reserves when oil prices collapse.
In a sign of the times, the Saudis have also tapped the debt market, setting up a scenario where Riyadh’s debt-to-GDP ratio (which might as well have been zero) is now set to rise at least sevenfold by the end of next year and fifteenfold by 2020….
Despite torrid weather and virtually no rain, the world’s largest oil producer once grew so much of the grain that its exports could feed Kuwait, United Arab Emirates, Qatar, Bahrain, Oman and Yemen. The circular wheat farms, half a mile across with a central sprinkler system, spread across the desert in the 1980s and 1990s, visible in spring to anyone overflying the Arabian peninsula as green spots amid a dun sea of sand.
The oilfields remain, but the last wheat farms have just disappeared to save the aquifers supplying them. For the first time, Saudi Arabia will rely almost completely on wheat imports in 2016, a reversal from its policy of self-sufficiency. It will become a full member of the club of Middle Eastern nations that, according to the commodity-trade adage, “sell hydrocarbons to buy carbohydrates.”
I'm pretty sure those Saudi's will starve off and die just like the rest of "mankind". Mans technological damage to planet Earth is not reversible. We were putrid little monkeys with car keys and big bombs.
Informative video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRW45eaw28g
…..Listen to the very end.
Little snippets of conversation with a melancholy choir soundtrack, but no mention of Geoengineering, aka Solar Radiation Management or H.A.A.R.P. anywhere in that clip.
Actually I found Macpherson to be a boring babbler, especially the sermon on our insignificance in the whole universe. I don't need him to point out our scale of existence. I wish there was a clip that had him in serious dialogue where people such as ourselves could throw the many many questions we have right at him. But given how he reacted to Dane, I very much doubt he would happily engage in that scenario.
Without the background to the real history of humanity and the wars for control over carbon resources and using it as the basis for a corrupt economy, all the while suppressing alternative technologies, how can we hope to get our heads around this issue? Guy's dismissal of alternative energies explodes with bias that he doesn't even bother to properly explain.
Hello Michel, about McPherson, yes, your assesments are accurate. For those that don’t know much about McPherson, the attached link my shed more light. https://www.geoengineeringwatch.org/a-meeting-with-scientist-guy-mcpherson/
I think some avert their eyes to the geoengineering of the planet because it fits their religious agenda of the world coming to an end. Being "right" is more important to them than plants, people, and species being extinguished, and ultimately, the planet dying. As simple as that. People won't reexamine their beliefs easily. They rather buy survival goods than look up into the skies and do something.
When "Deep Shield" outlined how all nations, even ones with "issues" between them (as in geopolitical tensions, wars, etc.), either voluntarily get on board with the PROGRAM or are intimidated into getting on board, the sheer absurdity of the "world order" came into even clearer focus. We are all being played like a fiddle, as the saying goes. Up is down, bad is good, white is blue, right is left, poison is medicine. Dane is tirelessly assisting us in coming to the full realization that we are all living in, and will likely die, in an insane asylum run by deluded Power Brokers and the mad scientists and military henchmen who do their bidding. Yes, to think that the "SOLUTION" was concocted by a relatively tiny handful of insiders (scientists) who then apparently "sold" their "SOLUTION" to the PTB, is so far beyond ethical as to be bat-guano crazy, as in schizophrenia in turbo-fan jet engine overdrive. Indeed, how dare these motherf***ers decide the fate of billions of living beings, from microbes on up to Buddhas. The magnitude of the blindness, the peering at the world with horse blinders strapped to their arrogant heads, and then to initiate a "terraforming" program (what a bullshit characterization by "Deep Shield") of such incomprehensible sweep and uncertain consequence is beyond my ability to process. In a previous post I used the term "conscience-free governments". I use it again now to describe the core of the problem with the "science". These bastards (scientists) have no conscience, no heart, no connection to the sacred. They appear to have lived their entire professional lives totally in their heads, feverishly and frantically computing solutions to environmental problems by mixing things in a laboratory beaker, scaling up production of the vile, toxic crap to the level where it can be loaded into "canisters" worldwide for spraying out the ass end of countless aircraft, and then wondering if maybe, just maybe, their "solutions" had anything to do with their father or wife dying prematurely of cancer or Alzheimer's. I am inspired by the intensity of Dane's broadcast today, but I have to tell you, I am ripped apart by the truths contained therein. I know everyone who comes to this site feels the same. WE are the enlightened ones, WE are among those who GET IT. WE see that the SOLUTION is not only NOT working, but is aiding and abetting Mother's death spiral. This is heartbreaking for all of us, no words can convey the depth of it.
I'd like to start a group for those of us who may benefit from the emotional support we could perhaps offer each other. I find that focusing on awakening others may come at a cost. Our efforts in that regard may not be as effective as hoped. And those unaware and in denial can present us with the added stress of having to process our feelings in isolation while pretending to the outer public that everything is fine as to not draw unwanted attention. I'm just not yet sure of how to go about assembling interested members.
I so agree with you Marc,
Once you awaken there is no going back to sleep. What can we do though ? The grief I feel for the state of affairs and what is being done to our mother earth as you say no words can convey it . So are we past the tipping point? We may be .. When I read that 90 percent of all large fish in our oceans are gone and locally the reef that I swim over in Maui has declined 50% in 10 years is shocking ! What kind of world are we leaving the children of this planet ? It all gets so overwhelming at times its hard to deal with but like I said you cant go back to sleep once you wake up ..I just keep spreading the word and try to be as positive and uplifting in spirit as I possibly be .. blessings on all of you good people out there who truly care about the quality of life on our planet. Dane is the best source of info on this subject and a true crusader !!
Hi Dane,
Here is south NJ, after 3 days of icenucleated "clouds" got up at 5 AM to a huge temperature drop and clear morning skies, until dawn, then the massive spraying at the sun. Winds are out of the north, indicating they moved the jetstream again, otherwise we have some blue skies to the northwest (away from the sun), but seems from my town south, the trails are expanding larger and larger as we approach the afternoon. I know there is a huge military base just southwest of my location, so it seems to be a military application/geomagnetic field they are creating. all night I heard low flying military planes flying overhead. The ELF's/RF's extremely high since 6 AM. Even though the wind is out of the north, the trails are going directly west to east towards the ocean. We should have total whiteout in another hour or so
Hello Dane,
I drive by your area twice a week. Two years ago, the spraying was especially bad in Dunnigan. I had a severe asthma attack. I am 61 years old, and I have not had one so bad since I was an 11 year old. The ambulance crew put me on oxygen. I almost blacked out from suffocation. My insurance does not pay much for ambulance service, so I will be paying for years.
This is a serious question. Since I have to drive through northern California twice per week, which brands and model numbers of respirators would you recommend?
If you don't believe me, I will provide medical records.
Hello WHMC, I certainly believe the account of what you went through, you are not alone in experiencing that. About respirators, some of the better over the counter models could do some good in regard to larger clumps of nano particulates that have coagulated together, or for mold, but are still inadequate to filter what we are being exposed to.
Hi Dane
found this article:
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It has been said the effectiveness of terroist cells is largely due to compartmentalisation of indiviual cells; each having no knowledge of the other & only focusing in their task at hand.
This is another reason for the apparent ignorance of those involved as shown in the interview. Geoengineering, weather warfare, globalisation, climate engineering, depopulation, weather derivatives etc each represent individual cells, focusing on their own objective.
Also many involved have dedicated much of their careers to the subject; rather than admitt the totality of their error(s) they choose to put their own need for credibility above all else, including the existence of all life on earth.
As you so often say, it is the opitomy of human insanity & we MUST stop it before we hit the pavement. Very informative segment as always.
As I sit here reading these responses from this website that I'm sure is a bitter sweet escape from this madness that we all share – just want to say here in south central Canada they sprayed all day – got the kaleidoscope sunset in the east – I actually see the stars bright and beautiful now – as it should be this evening – I dedicate this precious moment to Dane and all of you.
Some days I just want to weep in despair, other days I feel so hopeful due to your incredible ability to keep on keepin' on. You are a good (possibly the best) example of a decent citizen of the Earth, and I will continue to strive to emulate your model. I share your site at every chance, and attempt to inform others. My sense is that until the fiat currency lies are exposed, too many will opt for pretend money that appears to conceal their lies, even when it means death to all.
You're not alone in that. I feel you.
More billboards are going up. People are talking about it on social media. Sharing the movie, articles. I just opened a gofundme page for another billboard in my area. We ARE making an impact. It's just not happening fast enough for some of us.
The interview with the scientist just sickens me. How in the world did we ever let these powers that be get control. I do not for one second believe that this climate engineering is being done for the greater good. Instead I am convinced it ties into agenda 21, which is the forced relocation of the masses to tiny cubicles around the world. For the United States it is a small area in the midwest. I have seen the maps on Alex Jones show Infowars. Not all of us will survive this assault. The powers that be are not trying to hide the fact that they want most of us dead. The Georgia Guide Stones clearly state that to maintain a perfectly balanced world the worlds population must be maintained at 500,000,000 people. They have erected these stones for all to see. This should send a chill down everyone's back. I would rather be dead then to live as a slave in their world. If you think I'm a nut so what. I'm used to it by now trying to convince people about this geo engineering. Keep the fight going Dane.
Exactly. They are not hiding anymore. The issue is (IMHO) people are so busy entertaining themselves with television and gadgets that they don't notice or care or they buy into the "its just water vapor" lie. Others have flat out cognitive dissonance. That's going to change though.
What better diversion that the introduction of the smart phone? Everywhere I go, people are totally absorbed in this thing. Who the hell has time to look when the distraction is addictive? I remember a episode of Jesse Ventura's show (Conspiracy Theory) about massive empty buildings meant for immigrants; as they were told by the official at the door. A field full of coffins in storage which were quickly removed. Whatever happened to that show? I think we all know.
Today's show was very sad. He said there was a 90% chance of human extinction in the next 20 years and he said that in 2003…and that we passed the point of no return in the 1970s…and that for countries to not participate in these aerosol programs to protect "the shield" is considered an act of war…and that "they" know that there will be economic collapse and chaos if we know we have no future so they keep lying to us while we are, in fact, all dying.
Hello Abr, the statements in the interveiw are indeed dire, and the data from the ground confirms how rapidly implosion is occuring, but if the ongoing assault against the planet can be stopped, there may yet be a glimmer of light on the horizon. It is not just climate engineering that must be stopped, but the rest of industrialized civilizations decimating effects as well. If given any chance at all, nature will survive. From the smallest crack in the middle of the concrete jungle the blade of grass appears, we must not give up.
It's not all doom and gloom. This will stop at some point. There will be tipping point. I know that. I don't have any proof but I have a deep knowing that the real powers that be, are not going to let this planet die out.
Don't believe the earth is dying when it is being killed.
Earth — like us — has an infinite capacity to heal, and will be here even if initially less creative. I am not an optimist either; I am considering the work of Tom Bearden and I encourage others to learn of his work and what is possible. There are advanced technologies that can solve our problems that no government in its usually patriarchal idiocy wants us to know about. As Dane says, we have to think for ourselves and act for ourselves. All of the structures is a giant mirage of so-called "authority," useless titles and egos. All authority is in you.
I've just started waking up to geo-engineering and have been researching as much as I can. We live on a large property in a rural town in southern Western Australia. We are directly under the Perth to Melbourne flight path and can see plenty of trails.
Our place used to be farmland which is now undergoing total reforestation using a vast selection of native trees and shrubs. We see the rain clouds coming, but sometimes it never happens. One day it can be a cool 16 degrees C and the next it can be up to 36. It seems we go from winter to summer almost overnight. Spring is becoming more fleeting.
We're about 50 kms from the Southern Ocean and that area is pristine wilderness and the national park that's adjacent to the area is word-renowned for its biodiversity.
But I had a realisation this morning whilst doing some more research on the subject. We've been here for 4 years. Our eldest daughter moved down to be with us for a while and started getting a very distressing skin irritation, like eczema all over her body. She used to get it occasionally as a young child but only on the inner-elbow. The local doctor was a bit perplexed and put it down to the environment. The only thing that stopped it was when she moved to Perth. Now when she visits us, it's brief and she starts sneezing almost immediately, watery eyes and headaches. So she never wants to visit us 🙁 However she is about to leave for Canada soon for work and from what I've been learning, it looks pretty bad over there.
Our youngest daughter who still lives with us is getting severe headaches and even though we've tried to pinpoint a cause with a process of elimination, she still suffers from them.
I'm starting to join the dots. My husband and I have had no ill-effects from living here. So I'm going to start researching at a grass roots/local level by photographing the trails from planes, cloud formations, weather forecasts, and as our community is very small, will start talking to others.
Your website is very informative, and I've been looking at some Australian based geo-engineering sites but there doesn't seem to be as much information as to what's happening down under.
When I'm asked "but why would they want to kill everything when they're only killing themselves as well?", answering "F….d if I know" isn't how I want to reply. Nor do I want to be looked upon as the crazy lady that lives on the hill. I'm very involved within the community so I wish to remain credible.
The 'shield' interview was definitely from an insiders perspective and quite disturbing. It's probably the best brainwashing scenario to come up with to keep the 'maintenance of the shield' going using unsuspecting helpers.
Anyway, huge topic – huge implications – many questions – little answers. Where do I start?
After posting my comment, I didn't have to wait long to see some evidence unfold. The morning was heavily overcast and I can see for miles where we are. I was discussing geoengineering with my daughter and we heard a plane go overhead and joked 'hhmm, there's one now'. Within 20 minutes all the rain clouds had gone and the only thing left was a long trail. That was hours ago and I can still faintly see the trail. This trail didn't follow the usual flight path of commercial airlines. They go west/east/west and this went north to south.
Kay, I am no longer on Facebook, but if you are or anyone on this site, see if you can get in touch with Paul Mac and invite him to join this website. He is from Australia and very informed, having taken part in Climate change conferences. I hope this helps.
Tom
Hello Kay, a little google search found this petition:https://www.communityrun.org/petitions/stop-geo-engineering-our-australian-skies also this: http://www.chemtrailaustraliainternational.com/chemtrail-news.php you might want to encourage them to change their name, as lay term "chemtrails" are not recognized. You can make copies of documentaries and hand them out. You can also make copies of Danes flyers to hand out as well. Maybe a get together with neighbors and watch the films together. All efforts to expose this evil is well worth it. Good luck to you down under.
Hello Kay, perhaps a way to explain the mindset of the powers that be who orchestrate geoengineering despite the potential their health will be affected is to realize how important control is to them and how many of their plans span intergenerational timelines. Several decades ago, when nuclear bomb testing was taking place in remote areas of the US, it was known that at minimum hundreds of thousands of Americans would die early deaths as a consequence of the spread of fallout from testing. US elites had to have understood they too would have an increased risk of developing cancer. If the Gulf oil spill was due to a deliberate act of sabotage, and there is reason to believe it likely was, the long term widespread effects would be also understood to pose calculated risks for the the elites. The global elites' insatiable hunger to control the world on a level few can wrap their heads around is paramount to all other considerations, including profit and their own health. I also wouldn't be surprised if they have access to advanced medical technologies and treatments the rest of us don't.
I am hoping to connect with anyone who can help in any of te following three projects:
1. Putting our videos on cable access( where you city council is seen)
2. Leafletting outside DC agencies there civil servants are gagged about chemtrails.
3.Putting together a 3 person panel in NYC at the left forum the last weekend of May 2016
Contact me at my facebook page David Slesinger
Good luck with that. Try to get a gofundme page too to get a billboard up. if you post on social media, even better! Its free but they do charge a small fee per donation. I leaf let in the trains, the stations, the news paper bins, share the articles and I got a gofundme page to try to get a bill board up in my area. I do it alone.
Canadian government scientist have just had their gag order on the press lifted and they are free to speak to the media. I will be watching if it transpires. I think Tim Finn's song "Protected" is apt. Regards
My comment was truncated. I explained that people seem to think these are condensation trails and I point out that those evaporate nearly immediately but people just look at me like I'm crazy. It's demoralizing- then- what a stupid country.
Here in central Jersey we get about 4 days on and 4 days off. Most of the time it dampens the precipitation. We rarely get solid downpours anymore, just strange misty events. We had one yesterday in fact. When that clears we will get 1 or 2 days of clear skies and then the planes are back. It's clear that they must spray repeatedly because the atmosphere clears the aerosols and goes back to normal. The cloud formations have been extraordinary no more nimbus, stratus or cirrhus anymore, just strange diffuse gauze layers. I've watched the clouds actually coalesce back together What a stupid country.
Yes juju, I've noticed the change as well, for the first time this week. These patterns are gauzy, and are of a horizontal mass…laid down in a patchwork manner, (difficult to describe for someone like me who is not familiar with the terminology), and not stretched out horizon to horizon like the trails….haven't seen those in awhile, and no X patterns either. I made a call to a friend who shares her observations with me to let her know.
As if none of this makes sense; read
this http://rense.com/general64/pordc.htm
That'll churn your butter!!!
Yes, I saw this and he's not the only saying it. People are just not paying attention. They'd rather be entertained watching TV. There is a tipping point though and I think unfortunately, its when more trees die and our supermarkets (not that I shop in one) will only carry fake foods with zero nutritional value.
Yes, many people have been saying this, people in very high places. Catherine Austin Fitts reports here how a number of people in very high positions of finance decided that the planet runs best on 500 million people: https://solari.com/blog/swine-flu-what-i-believe/
This is one of your best programs ever, Dane. It helps to put in perspective that many of those doing this destruction have somehow let others convince them that they are doing it for good, even though all they have to do is open their eyes to see the truth: that these people are just the pawns of an evil agenda.
I want to also state that it is important, as you said at the end of the interview, to keep spreading the truth. When I first heard of chemtrails 6 years ago, I didn't want to believe it, either. But the more I looked up, and the more I saw, it made me want to start doing my own research. Then I started uncovering the whole web of lies and hidden destruction being executed on Planet Earth. It took months to reconcile within myself that ALL this destruction — on so many levels — was actually deliberate. That most people in power are actually sociopaths who seem hell bent on destroying as much as they can while convincing their minions that it is being done in the "name" of something good.
I'm glad I was able to open my eyes. Only when we see the problem for what it is, can we be part of the solution. Each of us can pray each day for Divine Intervention, in addition to doing our own part. And that is Huge.
….Govt. secrecy has gone waaaaaaaaaayyy too far….for far too long…
…..and it looks like it has reeaallly hit the fan….BIGTIME….
I live in a small fishing village on the Pacific coast in Mexico. For 3 years now there have been virtually no fish……..Fishermen say the water is warm. I have not seen trails in the sky here as I did in Colorado but the storms and hurricanes are coming more frequently.
I believe one of the first few wake up signs that caught my attention a few years ago, was the lack of insects and bugs during the warm, weather months. This is not a subject of interest for me as a rule, and I'm not afraid of spiders, but I still couldn't help but notice and have an idea of what that means. I've posted something about my Observation on FB, and I mentioned it to a few people I know, and ironically I got nothing when there should have been the sound of crickets. Bah dum, dum. The say people don't want to know. What I cannot wrap my head around is the idea that they can't remember how normal was, and how different they are because of all the change.
Dane, you are doing extraordinary work and we deeply thank you. After hearing this interview, I felt as if I was knocked down! Here in the country north of Detroit, it was an unusually warm day for the first week of November with blue skies instead of grey days. I looked out the car window and was outraged to see more than 15 criss crosses of chemtrails recently made and being made. I would have taken a picture if I had my camera. I hope you are protected as you tirelessly spread the word. Thank you, and may God bless you too.
Maobe, I'm from the Detroit suburbs and you mention Nov 2,3,4 were close to setting record highs. I noticed Monday I believe the 2nd clear skies until around 2ish, at the time of day it rolled in from the west. The next few days clear. However, Thursday overcast with spray lines.
BOYCOTT EVERY MEDIA IN YOUR STATE (((((( I AM IN R.I. IS THERE ANY OTHERS IN R.I. READY TO ACT ???????????????????????????
I do. And have regained my sanity. It is amazing how much mental clarity is available once the mainstream media is flushed out. I watch no mainstream television, no news, no circus Maximus, and no commercials. Really, I feel like a born again.
I just sent this link to my friend who is a reporter for sulphur Louisiana. She is our only hope to expose this.
I was thinking; she may very well lose her job and join the ranks of other whistle blowers but it's up to us all to support her and carry her and the others on our shoulders. Fair is fair and its for the greater good. I hope she is allowed to speak or publish this and let it go on social media. Why don't you & others look into a bill board?
Dane, re: the insider report, honestly I feel like I've been kicked in the gut. I had to read it twice. To learn of the international and deliberate co-operation and the implication that "not to spray" is basically an act of war is to me appalling. I appreciate the candor of said individual which obviously cost his life. Here in Canada which is deeply implicated in all of this we HAD (hope I'm wrong) a chance to try to make a difference with the newly elected Liberal government and it's neophyte Environment Minister. The message I get is I'm wasting my time on unanswered emails to the media, government departments, etc. This is very disturbing information and unfortunately not totally unexpected. Is it paranoid of me to assume that just being concerned enough to ask questions, follow this site, that we are all now on some governmental shit list? WE have to organize and rally then the media will have no choice but to cover us and the dupes will eventually have to offer up some B.S. Thanks for caring. Jonathan.
Hi Jonathan,
You asked, "Is it paranoid of me to assume that just being concerned enough to ask questions, follow this site, that we are all now on some governmental shit list?"
No, you're not paranoid at all. If you care about the planet enough to talk about it, you are definitely on the governments shit-list. I think that's about as clear as the genocide occurring over our heads.
Yes, we are probably on "some government shit list" … the same government who we pay taxes to and is slowly poisoning us from the sky, our land, food, water, and the air we breath. Slow death. I'm one who has been sick with these symptoms that cannot be diagnosed for 8 years now. I went to 'pure' New Zealand thinking I would get better, but I carried the aluminum & barium etc. in my body with me – so I got worse. Now I can eat about 5 things, nothing uncooked, no sugar, etc. – something like baby food; and every day I take colostrum, magnesium, apple pectin, and chlorella. We who are on "the shit list" also live with the risk of dementia & Alzheimer's. Paid again with my taxes. Irony?
A total of 1,925 subjects who were free of dementia at baseline and had reliable water assessment data were analyzed. Using random-effects models, the authors found that cognitive decline with time was greater in subjects with a higher daily intake of aluminum from drinking water (>or=0.1 mg/day, P=0.005) or higher geographic exposure to Aluminum. http://science.naturalnews.com/2009/2509113_Aluminum_and_silica_in_drinking_water_and_the_risk_of.html
Jonathan. What's happening on the BC pacific coast check out this video from young man http://www.thenuclearproctologist.org our pacific is dead. He has been charged and is going to court for telling the truth, just like what Dane is doing. Victoria, Vancouver island, the young men that go out on fishing boats, to pull up crab traps, are told not to mention about the seals that are caught in the traps. They are staving. Humans hear a lot of information, what makes it true is seeing the information come to life. Truth wears no mask.
Wish my children would wake up. So sad.
Dane get a body guard.
Yesterday, in southeastern Oregon the skies were silver grey with all the spraying. By evening my husband’s and my eyes were burning and I had a headache. The skies started out clear blue, but within a couple of hours the skies were being criss crossed like I have never seen it. People are too busy looking down at their phones to look up at the sky. BTW, for the last couple of days I could not click on the link on your daily newsletter. It would not come up. Very fishy. I have to go to your Facebook page to read the whole article. The link from there works just fine. What's up with that? We also had snow on Nov 4 with 41 degrees. It looked like ice crystals coming down. Keep up the pressure….keep telling everyone about the chem trails, get them to look up.
I hear ya Emily – we have bloody noses here, heart palpitations, ears are ringing non-stop, dizzy, nausea etc. etc. etc. I see the people who are too "busy" not noticing – oh how different their faces will look when that option (that luxury they are abusing) no longer exists, which is rapidly approaching.
It is beyond amazing to me that more around me just are not feeling any effects of the toxic metals spraying, or even having problems. People complain about the chem trails, all right, but they're doing this mainly because of their (correct) intellectual understanding of the situation, not due to their actual experience of having to withstand the onslaught physically. Most I see behave as if they do not feel the effects of the toxic metals with any specificity or understanding of the relationship between the spraying and how they actually feel, because this culture carefully trains you NOT to feel anything.
I am one of the Three Per Cent who can smell, taste and FEEL the particulates. I was hospitalized in June of 2010, diagnosis was arrhythmia due to acute barium poisoning. There was NO treatment, not even potassium supplementation. I just got stuck in there overnight and people barely paid attention to me. I went back to the ER a few times with more barium attacks. The ER physician wouldn't examine me. In spite of the total lack of examination he said that I was "delusional along Axis 1.." this diagnosis, with NO examination, never mind that it takes eight hours of testing to come up with a diagnosis like this, according to my neighbor who was a hospital-staff psychologist for thirteen years.
Dane, I asked Sean from http://www.sgtreport.com to have you back on for another interview to discuss the 1978 US Senate report you posted three weeks ago.
Thank you, Dane. You are a source of heroic inspiration for all of us, tireless and relentless. You cleared up any remaining confusion regarding the 'Deep Shield' article. I'm sure everyone understands now. What they are doing is making our planet worse.
I've been watching the jet stream for about 3 years now as they use HAARP to crazy whiplash drive the thing into unimaginable patterns. Here are some useful links for people. Tools for observing:
NOAA: National Weather Service Climate Prediction Center
Click on product title to go to product page. Move cursor over product parameter name to display the graphic — click to enlarge. Links to these same products are also available below.
http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/
Jet Stream Analyses
http://virga.sfsu.edu/crws/jetstream.html
NOAA GOES: GeoStationary Satellite Server
http://www.goes.noaa.gov/
Dane many of whom I have talked to understand exactly what is going on in the Skies as we speak and ask what do you want us to do get killed for being outspoken? and or who do we talk to in making them recognize our threat upon Planet Earth ? and yes myself have spider webs stretching over my cyclone fencing all around my property the Pine trees in our rural area are dead looking with pine needles burnt looking from exaggerated heat ..today 11/7/15 Palm Springs in 75 degree and over on the coast is 75 degree where up here in the sierra's were at 54 degree unbelievable temperature wavering from 400 to 600 miles in range normally were cold on the coast as we are in the mountain area?
I just took pictures this day seeing the fumes being sprayed early AM hours it's devastating to see them in our skies and not being Stopped WHY WE ASK?
Another overcast day in Southeast Tennessee. Temps all night in the 70's. Jets overhead you could hear them all morning. I remember a day when it rained you could not hear a jet. God help us what they are spraying. Weather forecasts here are litterally changed daily now. Rain was supposed to be here all day yesterday. NOPE. High in the mid 80's and lots of afternoon sun and heat. Today rain was supposed to stop by noon. Its poured pretty much all day.. Tomorrow overcast that means lots of planes unfortunately. They just changed the forecast for monday too. Likely rain coming back is an official forecast.
Dane, I've seen more and more people online talking about Sea Level Rise and Methane. Also, the water temps around the ice up in the arctic is way above normal. I've been trying to understand or find what the temps are below the arctic ice? Any links would be great. I've been making a lot of progress with people in these area's. One person at a time.
Hello JACTN, the arctic ocean temps are far above normal, check the “arctic news” web site on line.
Thank you Dane. I seem to have overlooked the September entry that would of answered my question. The scientists up in the Arctic seem to be worried. Thank you