Dane Wigington
GeoengineeringWatch.org
In the Orwellian world we find ourselves in, there are some individuals who stand out as torch bearers for the power structure and the collective insanity. National media host David Pakman is a poster child among those who have made their living by pushing and propagating the “official narrative” for those in power. Pakman has just posted the video below stating that:
It is Thanksgiving week so we've got something extra special for you. For the Thanksgiving spirit, I don’t know how Thanksgiving connects to “chemtrails”…
In this 16 minute debate Pakman interviews me while desperately trying to discredit the critical issue of climate engineering. He clearly never bothered to actually investigate geoengineering or the verifiable facts relating to it. Not surprisingly, Pakman repeatedly insisted on using the "chemtrails" term, this is yet another example of why utilizing the science terms is so important.
David Pakman is the epitome of power structure propaganda pushing so called “journalists”. His aggressive participation in the criminal climate engineering cover-up makes him an accessory to the climate engineering crimes of planetary ecocide and potential omnicide. If you are not OK with Pakman’s attempt to try and marginalize (and thus cover up) the critical climate engineering issue, let him know HERE.
Geoengineered skies. Photo credit: Rudewald Gumbs
Many activists inquire about how best to debate climate engineering deniers. Though I generally advise activists not to waste time on people who clearly don't want to investigate (let alone wake up), and I generally avoid such debates also. However, when there is an opportunity to have the debate aired on a very large national radio show, the effort is well worth the time. Here is another heated on-air geoengineering debate with a national radio show’s expert denier (WHO NewsRadio 1040) recorded in the video below. When the station's own patrons began to call and express their support for the information being presented on the geoengineering reality (and the dangers of geoengineering), the station host brought the interview to an immediate end.
There are many media sources playing the same part as David Pakman and WHO radio, it is up to us to expose them for the power structure disinformation sources they are. This is best accomplished by forwarding credible and verifiable data. Credibility is key in the fight to expose and halt climate engineering, make your voice heard in this all important battle to sound the alarm.
DW
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I was working away the month of November and had no time to follow your site much Dane. Catching up a bit now. You are a pro Dane. How you handle yourself when dealing with a speck of ignorance wasting precious oxygen was awesome. No falters. Just facts. I am going to have to watch this one a couple more times. I can admire your composure and steadfastness; you made him very small by the end. Good job man. The thank-you offered at the close; was a slap to his rudeness. Beautiful.
As pointed out by several readers below, Mr. Pakman only roped himself into his own straight jacket, and advanced the anti-geoengineering movement by negating the existence of a known reality.
My hope is that the interview goes viral. I highly recommend that readers post the link on other web sites. Dane outclassed this misinformed jerk by about ten light years…
"It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere."
François-Marie Arouet
– Voltaire –
(November 21, 1694 – May 30, 1778)
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Jan Becker, that was a very well thought out, detailed statement to David Pakman! Outstanding
This is the response that I sent to David Pakman:
David,
From the tone you take on your show, it is clear that you feel very sure of yourself and confident of the continuation of life as you have known it as a member of the privileged few. At this moment, you feel immune to the worst consequences of the horrendous global environmental damage that is starkly evident to anyone who is awake and aware.
But soon you too will realize that no one can escape the consequences of the callous disregard for nature that has broadly marked the Anthropocene Age. Set aside normalcy bias for a moment to consider why 15,000 top world scientists just gave the human race a second (perhaps final) warning concerning irreversible damage to our shared habitat. No matter how successful your career, it won't save you on a planet that no longer supports the existence of carbon-based life forms.
For you, apparently, it is just too terrifying to contemplate the fact that your own government is performing experiments that amount to biological warfare on you without so much as mentioning it. Facing this reality would (I hope) give you new-found compassion for the countless others before you: the Tuskegee experimentees are just one example.
You have internalized the concept of American exceptionalism to include YOU. Guess what? It doesn't. The only people that term applies to are card-carrying members of the oligarchy that runs this country from behind closed doors. You are merely the sentinel at the gate who discourages the hoi polloi from questioning the actions of those inside the palace.
Perhaps if you looked into the facts concerning easily proven statements by people who DO bother to educate themselves (like Dane Wigington), you would realize that for your entire life the US government has been experimenting on its citizens without their knowledge or consent. It resembles a game of whack-a-mole: which group will be next? Well, David, you might be a member of the next targeted demographic. After all, you are only the hired help.
Even subconsciously realizing that you have no power in a situation can bring on a serious case of Stockholm Syndrome. It doesn't feel good to know how helpless most of us are against abuse and exploitation by those who hold the reins of the most powerful military force on earth. But a sane person would rather face reality—even with its many frightening implications—and fight for his/her freedom than turn into an ostrich.
Please pull your head out of the sand for a moment and use your intelligence and logic to search out facts. No, you won't find them on any popular entertainment channel like Fox News or CNN, but if you do educate yourself, you may be able to help others take off their blinders long enough to realize that those who control the country are reckless, short-sighted, extremely dangerous psychopaths who will do anything to hold onto what they perceive as "control," whether it be through endlessly beating the drums of war or weather manipulation in the form of stratospheric solar radiation management and chemical ice nucleation.
I'm not referring to the RNC or the DNC, who are two sides of the same sell-out coin; I'm referring to the deeply entrenched oligarchy of industrial and post-industrial America. I know that it can hurt to pull off a blindfold that's been in place for 30+ years, but you need to realize that "democracy" never really happened in this country. The only evidence of its existence lives in the voices of those brave enough to shout the truth while dog-paddling in a sea of lies and corruption.
Whether you want to admit it or not, you are prostituting yourself and your platform for the sake of an oligarchy that will happily throw you to the wolves the moment they no longer require your truth-shushing services.
If you continue to serve as a loyal gate-keeper, you will have failed entirely to fulfill the basic purpose of human beings: to be stewards of the planet and to foster cooperation and peace among the vast majority of people, who really just want to love and be loved during the brief time we inhabit the Earth.
Jan Becker: Absolutely brilliant letter! Good to have you here.
The WHO news radio show did display good shots of evidence and facts, however Craig was set in his ways, by matter of his opinionated statements while not taking into account any creditable facts or research!
David Pakman is constantly trying to compare the GeoEngineering programs to other programs like the 1969 Man on the Moon. Pakman told Dane, an Air sample was tested from Phoenix, however he failed to give any details on what, who tested that sample. Over and over he is inconsiderate by interrupting Dane while Dane was trying to give details and facts in the answers to Pakman's questions. Pakman states he is not a Scientist, however he wants to choose a term for Chemtrails', also saying thats not good Science! I guess he does not realize how colluded and contradictory his statements are. David Pakman's show should be taken off the air immediately!!
Thank you for the comment! These very visible to public morons are only to TAKE AWAY YOUR ATTENTION FROM THOSE WHO ARE HIDING behind!! . Lets not to spend precious time on "wooden" decoys.
THE WRETCHED GEO-PSYCHOS ARE HIDING IN MANY PLACES and under many "titles". They are HIDING FROM GETTING GLOBALLY EXPOSED FOR THEIR GLOBAL CRIMES !! BUT YOU CAN SEE OUR VICTORY ALREADY – OUR VICTORY IS GROWING RIGHT FROM THE VERY TERRORISTS' NESTS, WHERE THEY GENERATE THEIR HYSTERICAL, UNCONTROLLABLE FEAR – THAT IS NOW DESTROYING THEIR VERY EXISTENCE FROM WITHIN.
Have been seeing a hit and miss with connecting to Pakman by others. I saw this originally & his horns of hate were so prominent then, so not want a thing coming my way from this entity. He had No intent to educate , learn, dialogue, nor be a respectful host at all. He kept referring to his slam, bash, and juvenile conduct. Very obvious he continues with"chemtrails" -what a deplorable attitude. Having a flashback on a phrase from old school : "You're so fake Ya even make Barbie look real. Pakman looks like a nervous & agitated dolt. May Dane be spared from ever wasting such precious time with such low class types. Intelligent & well read people no longer need to actually witness this ridiculous punk anymore. If new to this, ONE viewing is quite enough in my op. Dane already holds one of the highest seats possible in ANY interview on climate topic.
Thank you for your support, Lori. About the Pakman interview, I would meet him on the field again anytime, there is ground to be gained even in exchanges like the Pakman interview.
SUPERB COMMENT!!
I wonder what Mr. Pakman's "Theory" woould be on, why there are so many trails seen & photographed over the Skies with grids & the multitude of layers of trails that are reported, over Isolated, Remote, & Airport free areas? Did they waft over from those Triad Airport areas, Mr. Pakman? How about the Islands way out in the Oceans, that are far from any heavy Air travel & have trails appearing above them after air craft pass by. Trails that hang there all day long? Day after day ….
Yes Packman is lazy. Seems the bigger the mic the more useless the journalist.
Tom Keith above, I've just turned on to climate change, no tv, selective study material can often preclude new areas for me to look at. Anyway its v true, I can broach the subject with what I consider to be better than average educated ppl and its a complete nosedive, they are hell-bent on refuting info and material that specialists provide as correct, true and valuable. So they argue and refuse to acknowledge where we are heading, they know nothing but they'll pooh-pooh all I say. Why ? And yes they never read the material, never properly read the links. Its bloody frustrating ….
Oh for pete-sake. For those who left a comment on David Pakman site are now receiving his news letters. Never let a disaster go to waste. lol
Lovely.
VSF: Dane on Greg Hunter’s USAWatchdog.com
Geoengineering researcher Dane Wigington says recent Senate hearings confirming the science of geoengineering means dangerous climate changes are underway. Wigington says, “They have to control the message, and notice they always use the term ‘chemtrails’ because that term always leads to a dead end. It’s not a scientific term, and they want us to use that term. You don’t see them using the geoengineering, climate engineering, solar radiation management and aerosol injection term because they don’t want people to understand this issue is real. Why the Senate hearings? Because the elephant in the room is almost impossible to hide, and they are trying to pacify populations until the last possible moment. They want to tell the population what they want to hear–that this is only a proposal. They are saying this must start immediately when this has been going on for 70 years . . . this is the Orwellian world we live in. We have massive toxic aerosol, heavy metal spraying in our atmosphere that could not be more visible. It’s blotting out the sun. . . . These programs are completely out of control. . . .We are on the road to planetary omnicide. Climate engineering is the greatest and most immediate assault we face. Climate engineering, look at this like the pharmaceutical approach to planet earth. Hide the symptoms even if you are making the overall situation exponentially worse. That’s what they are doing. We have had these radical whiplash weather scenarios where it goes from 80 to 90 degrees to snow in a day or two. This weather whiplash is not natural in any way, shape or form.”
https://geoengineeringwatch.org/usa-watchdog-exposes-weather-warfare/
Here is my email I sent to David Packman:
You unintentionally gave Dane Wigington and geoengineering a lot of credibility and good exposure by your unprofessional antics during his interview with you in 2014. You obviously didn't research the topic and then babbled nonsense while claiming to be debating an expert in the field. Your attempt to bait him to talk about conspiracy theories backfired in your face. YOU are the one who didn't look credible, not Dane. You need to change the heading on your youtube channel video because he was the cool, collected one not you.
Dane taught us all a great lesson on how to respond to people who are ignorant about geoengineering but persist upon being argumentative. He backed up his responses with scientific data and used only the scientific terminology. He was calm and professional and didn't take the commentator's bait to have him discuss off-topic issues.
Dane, have you considered asking H.A. Goodman, Tim Black, or Mark Dice to interview you for their YouTube channels? They each have a fairly wide audience. Mark Dice has already done a video speaking on this issue. Look up Prince "chemtrails" as search terms on his channel. Your discussion of David Pakman made me think to ask. I know he's given H.A. a bunch of baloney too.
P.S. had a dream last night about contrails. Seems strange to me. I think it's a sign that this topic is breaching the collective unconscious.
I have had several Dreams, with trails in the sky. I scream out to the crowd … Do you see what they are doing right above our heads? I once had an FBI Agent telling me, "Not", to talk about it to others ! I told her to take a flying leap! She stole all of my files on Weather Modification! Yes, even while I sleep, I am fighting for the Cause! I guess it shows how important it is to me.
"The morning after"
This morning I woke up to a beautiful sunrise shining over 4 to 5 inches of glistening new snow. I used to love this with all my soul. There was a day when I would walk outside and my sled dogs would go nuts, They knew what new snow meant(grin). All that beauty now has a tainted hue to it all. The snow fall yesterday started just after sunrise(7:45AM) and ended an hour after sunset(4:30PM). The temps were 34 to 37 degrees all day. Up here in the high country and down in the valley. I know, I traveled 40 miles to Omak yesterday. It was raining slush and then rain in the valley and up here we had monster cluster flakes of chemically nucleated snow. Once again, as I have tracked for 4 winters now, I could hear the tankers above the cloud cover 'before' the snow started. I observed something new at mid morning yesterday. I could hear the growler jets flying 'low' above the cloud canopy. I know what they sound like when they are low and combine that with the fact I have witnessed many times, those growlers laying out aerosol dispersions. Shortly after the growlers were gone it started snowing heavily. I would call it specific area crop dusting. This morning I observed temps of 20F and the snow had somewhat dried out and is "soft", not frozen into a crust as I would have expected in the past decades. That snow out there hits the ground and keeps on doing its chemical nucleation thing. I think this aspect will come out in Dane's report of what he found on the slopes of Mt Shasta.
Well, it's time to fire up my 66' John Deere garden tractor and go plow the 3/8 mile driveway I love so much. 5 hours of subjecting myself to all the gassing off of that new "snow". "They are already covering my skies with new aerosol dispersions. So my sunny morning will turn into a cold haze. Some days it's hard to keep my spirits up, but I do!
I know isn't it creepy when you hear jets in low cloud cover? I always thought they were doing some kind of spraying. We can just assume they are spraying because unfortunately we cannot witness these events. However I do agree that most of the time they are doing some last minute seeding before the storm starts.
Thank you for your specific observations.
Pakman………….hmmmmm, where do your loyalties lie???
I think the interview with David Packman would simply draw the listeners to this site. Dane made it clear that there is Documented Proof from the government & was Professional throughout the interview, as usual. The public, I would Hope, would see Packman's lack of research. Yet, he acted Condescending. He looked foolish ! His need to use the C term after Dane stated, it can only lead to miss-information. I guess that does not bother, Mr. Packman. I listened to the interview with Craig Bergman once before. Painful! I thought Jan Mickelson put forth a great list of photo's & was a good interviewer. For the most part.
The interviewer named Packman ; like so many advocates of bogus religions and bent political philosophies adopts a supercilious manner where he uses a patronizing and sweet, overly precise manner and tone in his questions and comments. He spoke and acted in a manner stirringly similar to Kevin Spacey. His orientation toward denial of the obvious activities in our skies which ; unless some poltergeist happened to be inducing nano particle of aluminum oxide into our environment ; might also be an indication that he is bent ” off course ” in many other areas as well. It is always best to avoid the uncoordinated utterings of pedantic people.
Frank reps: powerful and truthful words my friend. Thank You for the sound advise in closing. One of the shortest, sweetest, and eloquently worded comments I have saw.
Dane, your mature, calm, and intelligent delivery of the facts only added credence to your message. Clearly Mr. Pakman was clueless concerning geoengineering, and he sure floundered in his feeble strike (against you) stubbornly obfuscating the causal and correlative.
After repeated attempts to respond to D. Pakman I keep getting:
Error in establishing a database connection. I'll save my thoughts and try again tomorrow.
Finally connected and sent Mr. Pakman my (567 words) 2 cents worth.
Dane, and ALL my friends I haven't met yet,
Dane, in regards to the second video on this article. Again, you my friend are rock solid and cool as ice. I don't know who the guy was that was staged as the "in studio skeptic" (Craig Bergman), but what a douche bag. That guy was all over the road. All mouth and nothing to back it, like maybe a few brain cells to rub together. I want to thank you sincerely for your courage to publish the interviews like the two posted here. I have learned much. I already knew the facts, but what I learned was how to deal more appropriately with these types of people. Your ability to dig your heels in and stand your ground 'and' maintain your composure is one that we all need to pay attention to and incorporate into our own way of dealing with others when we speak of Geo engineering. I strongly feel that credible data should be presented by a credible personality. This is only born in how we conduct ourselves when it's "crunch time". Don't be wishing to yourself, "gee, wish I could be that calm and collected". Be that calm and collected and practice it until you quit breathing. Throw some hards facts out there for people to pick up and learn from. Help them understand what they have been given and how very important it is.
Jan Mickelson, Craig Bergman, if any of this gets back to you two jokesters, (I hope it does), you better do some actual research and decern the facts from the bath water you both have been soaked with before you mess with Dane Wigington. Might save you some future embarrassment.
'a' simple horseman
"Bumper sticker" on a Kentucky plate vehicle:
"I'll believe corporations are people when Texas executes one".
Sounds like a pretty good litmus test to me!(grin). Interesting how humor can bare such a sharp edge.
WOW!!! I want the tee-shirt, and the mug, too! Then I want the tote bag so's I can go shopping with it, to… Target..
The idea that man doesn't have the power to alter the climate is not true.. When all flights were grounded after 9/11 for three days there was a change in north american teperatures.
http://www.greenmedinfo.com/blog/artificial-weather-revealed-post-9-11-flight-groundings
earth's weather patterns are very fragile and it doesn't take much to effect them.
What a spineless weasel, a feeble excuse for a man that whinges and wines frantically searching for a scrap of verbal ammunition to fire back at Dane as he desperately tries to shoot down the argument of climate engineering. A power structure mind controlled tool of mass deception if ever I hear one! I bet he's off drooling over his thousands of $$$$$$$$ for that little deception. If only he could grow a backbone and join the human race. Yuk!
I would like to make a statement by quoting James Le Fanu M.D.
"Science is a search for the explanation of how things work, not a search fro something called "proof" that by direct implication, prevents questioning."
Perhaps Mr. Pakman should have read this quote before the interview.
"But what is liberty without wisdom, and without virtue? It is the greatest of all possible evils; for it is folly, vice, and madness, without tuition or restraint:" – Edmund Burke – Source: Reflections on the Revolution in France
“Base men who have gained a certain amount of learning (without having the virtues necessary for its use) will be esteemed as sages.” – from ancient Sanskrit texts the Puranas
"The state represents violence in a concentrated and organized form. The individual has a soul, but as the state is a soulless machine, it can never be weaned from violence to which it owes its very existence." — Mahatma Mohandas K. Gandhi –
"The natural progress of things is for liberty to yield and government to gain ground" – Thomas Jefferson
When I hear this I just think why do they like to deny facts or pretend we live in a perfect world? When I was a child growing up here in Minnesota I never remember any trails being left in the sky from aircraft. Also as a child you question whatever you are told and say things like: How, why would someone do that. The other interesting thing about children is that they question reality, and "facts". Children are also good at telling things for how they are. The responses people give their children is, that's not possible or why would you think anything else.
The reality is that we chose to believe something for our safety and even our children's. We are taught certain things in school that marginalize us and make our ideas seem stupid and preposterous, especially if it contradicts what is well known "fact". We are taught to be a drone or a follower of accepted science and government "truths".
In December 2015 I stumbled across this website on accident. I was researching winter storms. Some of the topics I came across were; extensive research articles on how we were getting so many snow events when our air temperature was hovering around 38 degrees Fahrenheit. Then one search stood out to me: an article stating something about weather modification! At first thought I was like…I have never heard or seen anything about this, is it one of those crazy websites or something? I clicked on it anyway and it has profoundly changed my life. I have to say for the better because this is horrible and they don't care about the effects of such programs but a portion of our population is becoming concerned about the government. About time.
These "hosts" are just like every other person I talk to about this imperative issue about. They just form this bubble of protection around them made out of opinion, observation, carelessness, and mainstream problems and "facts." They simply shut down.
Hi Brice. With you on this. Here's what I sent to David Packman
Hi David I watched your full interview with Dane Wigington from 2014. Suggest you start by increasing your shaky scientific knowledge re understanding the relationship between phenomena. The relationship may be correlational, functional, or causal. Your script clearly reveals that you only think causal relationships are scientific. Then, on the basis of this misunderstanding ,you try to pin on your guest that he is being "unscientific". In the world of real science correlational and functional relationships are also very much valued as important sources of information. If you really are curious and open-minded about the claims Dane is making, then go meet the guy. Eyeball the studies and other source material he is referring too, while the guy is standing next to you. Video the interaction as a record for both of you. That's on the ground investigative journalism, as opposed to watching planes take off from 4 airports at the other end of the country, and extrapolating from that you've done "research" in preparation for the interview. You don't need to be a scientist David, but it would sure add to your credibility if you knew how to be an damn good journalist. Cheers Gerry Auckland NZ
It's obvious that neither Mr. Pakman or the host and critic on the WHO broadcast have never even looked at your site or even bothered to tune in to the weekly broadcast. If they wanted to talk about "conspiracy theories" they could have brought up what you said re: 911, vaccinations, red flag massacres, shadow/ dark governments, power structure, American hegemony, media betrayal..etc. They didn't even bring up the litigation and LASG. Is that the best they can do? You don't have to be a member of the debating club to see through this. Carry on, sir.
Letter emailed to Mr. Pakman this morning:
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Dear Mr. Pakman,
For months I have been enduring your late night show on The Free Speech channel, but nothing compares to the regurgitated video of your interview with someone who I greatly respect, Dane Wigington of Geoengineeringwatch.org.
I first researched the weather modification theory in 2005-2008, discovering with horror that in fact, the United States government has been conducting weather modification "experiments" since the 1940's and now has a massive program through DARPA (The Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency) and has links with the United Nations. This global weather modification program has affected every continent on Earth now.
Your ignorance on this subject is glaringly evident, for this is absolutely no conspiracy theory. I wish it was, as the environmental and medical consequences of this program are slowly devastating every single living thing.
I am no conspiracy theorist- I don't dabble in things that aren't scientifically proven, and I resent your attitude towards Dane Wigington and to the issue in general of weather modification. This is a very serious issue that needs to be exposed, and is not going to go away unfortunately.
Perhaps I will abstain from being bored to tears with your useless show in the future, for I'm sure there must be some other late night show that I can lull myself to sleep with."
Thanks Abby. I tried to email the pakster and it came back undeliverable….WTH? I assume he is rejecting any narrative, other than what has been programmed into the soft, feeble area between his ears.
Rev 11:18 For the appointed time came….to bring to ruin those ruining the earth.
I have a really hard time with this passage. In my mind, anyone that drives a car/truck and is hooked into the modern power grids living in a modern home 'is' ruining the earth. And yes, even though I live out in the sticks off grid in a little cabin, I too am in that category. Something about removing the log from our own eye comes to mind here.
This is equal to someone talking about product of our company negatively, while the product is of an excellent quality. It still promotes the product. In this case Pakman still helps spread the message about chemtrails to those who are uninformed. People will start investigating.
This interview was setup to try to discredit in my opinion. He had no interest in disseminating the truth about geoengineering.
It seems that whenever someone doesn't want to face something like the truth about vaccines or geoengineering or other things they can just conveniently write these things off as "conspiracy theory." Its an easy cop out and mental escape from facing the reality of these issues. Just the other day i posted a link to a lady who was arguing with someone about the flu vaccine on facebook. The link had photos of the insert that comes with the vaccine and what it says. She basically said "I dont have to read it. I don"t believe in conspiracy theories." who can penetrate this kind of mindlessness? And then they claim to be smart and educated.
Well, my message got through to David. Pakman. (sounds like the old Pakman game; can't believe its his real name) The evils always want personal feed-back from their evil actions. Too bad we don't have a bare-moon to show them.:)
If someone who knows how to make decent video would upload a response that is titled like 'response to (insert video title)' it appears there in the suggested viewing due to keywords and is a good way to make a public reply to those kinds of people.
That was painful to listen to. What an idiot. Can't believe he didn't do patent searches. Guess that's what we're all dealing with brain-dead zombies.
Brain-Dead from breathing decade's of Chemtrails, Err excuse me,"Geo-Engineering"! You Rock Dane, do not ever stop doing what you do!
It was painful (lol). I wrote him a brief letter of thanks for the discussion.
David Pakman has a job. He doesn't want to lose his job as a host. He is no journalist. He is most likely a paid shill. He doesn't read nor do the work, the research, the follow-up on Dane's words. It is obvious.
There are no real jouranlists on TV or mainstream 'net sites.
They're all paid shills. Every single one.
ABC showed its colors yesterday with a blatant lie about Gen. Flynn, then put their retraction so far down that most ABC viewers never knew it.
More people are waking up every day. The first step is to stop allowing yourself to be programmed by your television and its broadcast media.
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Hi Dane,
I watched the interview and walked away thinking this was set up for an intended purpose, all the way down to his acting dumb about the topic and repeatedly saying "chemtrails" and "conspiracy theory" even after you respectfully educated him.
His interviewing behavior smacked of insincerity and this is the comment I sent him:
"Hi David,
I just watched your interview with Dane Wigington about geoengineering (aka climate engineering and solar radiation management (SRM). It is obvious to me that you did not do much research on the topic and at the end when Dane told you about the government documents from 1966 that outlined what they were doing with the technology and the agencies and universities involved, you had nothing to say and ended the interview without conveying an ounce of interest in pursuing the facts.
I, like you, am not a scientist. Yet I have been able to find evidence of SRM and geoengineering (including government documents) dating back to the late 1940's. It appears that you didn't even look at Dane's website or the very long list of 100+ patents related to this. Anyone can look up the patents – they are not hidden.
In regard to your insistence in using the term "conspiracy theory" when anyone can validate what Dane is saying through photographic evidence around the world, documents from companies that manufacture the drums filled with heavy metals, testimonials from pilot whistle blowers, and government documents, reveals a lot about your motivations to discount the grave crime being carried out against humanity and our ecosystem. 15,000 scientists from around the world recently came out and stated that humanity is living on borrowed time, and believe me – millions of tons of heavy metals worldwide is not the answer. Many scientists believe we have less than 10 years to turn this around and yes, it is a convergence of many things at the causation level with geoengineering being one of the most devastating to all life on earth.
I say this respectfully…you come across as not seeking to understand truth, but rather protect those that are committing the crime. You are young so maybe you genuinely don't understand that many crimes have been committed by our government against the American people. Do a little research and be prepared to be shocked and sickened by what you discover. While you are at it, look at the poisons that are in vaccines, some ingredients such as Thimerosal (50% mercury) have synergistic effects when combined with Aluminum and cross the blood brain barrier. Ever wonder why one in 68 children (one in 42 for boys) born in America have autism or why Alzheimer's disease has sky rocketed affecting millions? Check it out – it's been dramatically increasing over the last 20 years where these conditions barely existed before.
While you are researching, you might want to see who coined the term "conspiracy theory" and why:
In 2013 Professor Lance Dehaven-Smith in a peer-reviewed book published by the University of Texas Press showed that the term “conspiracy theory” was developed by the CIA as a means of undercutting critics of the Warren Commission’s report that President Kennedy was killed by Oswald. The use of this term was heavily promoted in the media by the CIA and it is still used heavily today by the main stream media (which I'm sure you are aware 90% of MSM is controlled by 6 corporations). What does this tell you?
I'm sure you are also aware that scientists can be paid very large sums by their benefactors. Follow the funding source and you will understand that much of what is being presented as "science" is actually "pseudoscience" to keep the population in the dark. The same can be said for journalists – they can also be paid to write in support of propaganda, some even make over $1M per year.
Please don't take my comments as personal – I would make them to anyone who handled an interview as you did. I went beyond the scope of geoengineering in my comments because you have to in order to understand the realities of what we are facing, and not the propaganda being pushed by our government.
Understanding the truth isn't always pleasant, but it should be the fire in the belly of every journalist."
Sorry for the length, but I just had to share in show of support of all that you are doing to sound the alarm and prompt public action.
If gem faire ever comes to Phoenix Arizona, please let me know. I will be the first to volunteer.
Kind regards
Dear Truth Pursuit,
WELL DONE! Way to go my friend. I loved your intelligent and respectful "comment".
Blessings . . .
i see it as only a benefit , dane's argumentation was substantial and packman's responses were not , so him reposting this interview again now gives it a chance to reach more of his 400k subscriber base to expose more ppl to dane's collection of work on this topic…..
Dane thank you once again for your dedication and perseverance. I watch the interview you had with David Packman. You did a wonderful job. Here is a copy of my letter to him.
I was thrilled to watch the very important topic of Geoengineering of our skies.Mr. Wiggington did an excellant job of sharing important information with you and those watching or listening.
I would encourage you to take serious the vital info that was shared with you.
I appreciated your goving Mr. Wigington the last word on the matter.
I have to say that I am a 66 year old woman who has been keeping track of this topic since Al Gore started putting the conspirocy theory about global warming.I have contacted the top Geoengineer David Keith as well as climate modelist Ken Caldera. I have contacted many people involved in the Geoengineering ongoing program.Bill Gates is helping to fund both David Keith and Ken Caldera.
I have seen the numerous test of water and soil and snow. It is a crime against humanity and all biological life
The damage to the trees and the increase of upper respritory problems as well as the blocking of our sun and the whitening out of our sky.gives even more evidence to this crimanal activity.
Must say that you need to inform yourself better in regard to this crime! For you will be effected and are affected.whether you want to admit to it or not.
As far conspiracy theories go.Well in my years I have found that the same people who call others conspiracy theorist are usually the ones playing good cop bad cop.What is happening to our sky is right in.our face. As far as terminology goes, whether a persons uses the name chemtrails or climate engineeriing or SAG or SRM.Whatever you want to name it …it is happening.
Personally in my invested years into looking into this " phenomenon " as you called it, I have found what Mr.Wiginton said is creditable and has the proof that this " phenomenon is taking place with no end in sight.
To think it is normal to have the skys we have and the catastrophic weather
Is just plain rediculous to deny. They came up with global warming that then was transfered to climate change. Well the climate is changing because it is being engineered with Geoengineering.I have spoke to a local pilot who taught in the AirForce. He specialized in teaching about condensation trails.He assured me that it is a rarity to see condensation trails. He said to prove what the trails and the smears in the sky being dispersed are you would need to use Lidar.I doubt very seriously if any University will use their Lidar equipment to test. Because they are funed and would lose thier funding to say the least.This things BIG! Lots of money involved.This is evil and the root of all EVIL is the Love of money.I personally have speculated that not only is weather and climate and drought is being engineered but that the technology such as 5G and other technology relies on a ionized sky and the blocking of the sun. When I was young we had beautiful Azure blue skys and a warm yellow sun. We had sunshine now when the sun.is out its either blocked or we have sun glare.
I will end by saying that the smell of rain is nolonger as well as the smell of pine trees. So much has and is being deliberately destroyed. What better way to solidify the agenda for a global governace than to have global engineering onany levels. It is permeating every area of life. Land, water, air, all biological life. Move over Natural God created habitable Earth and Heaven…because those in postion with their trillions have convinced themselves through the LIE that they can become or decide to " evolve" to be their own god and reengineer everthing to set up their Singularity and Transhumanist Agenda.
Thank you for interviewing Dane and I truly hope you don't continue to just placate the public with your show.
Your attempt to play the devils advocate did not fly with me and I doubt anyone else tjat has ingormef themselves and truly have been researching this out of genuine concern
Not have a guest on a show to try to discredit the monumental evidence of what is happening.
Thank you. Soncerely, Verna Smith
Right on! You said it sister and perfectly. Thank you for taking the time to convey so truthfully what he needs to hear.
Dane, I just left Mr Pakman an email on his site letting him know what I thought of his prejudging interview. He definitely had an agenda and that was to discredit you and the whole concept of geoengineering. This is so classic and it disgusts me that this so called journalist knew nothing about the subject as he claimed. It is so obvious if you have some intelligence to see what is going on. I have lost friends and my latest guy over this sort of thing. Some people prefer to live in the Alice In Wonderland world. There is vey little you can do for them but to move on. Please NEVER get discouraged. There are those of us who pass this on as much as possible. You maintained your composure with this guy better than I could have. Thank you Dane!!
@DAVID PACKMAN: With the feeble hope I have, I thought you might be interested in developing some segment of a thin working knowledge of what Dane was trying to tell you.(IMO, you heard him but you couldn't "listen" due to your own inner narrative-as most humans have). Here is a long list of USA PATENTS regarding weather modification: I suggest you begin with the 1987 EASTLAND patent regarding "HAARP". In fact ,quickly look up HAARP–that just should take you a couple of minutes of your time. Then continue glancing down the list well into the 21st century. Perhaps, even read one. If you do the above and still maintain your position that Dane is a "conspiracy theorist"…well… BTW: Did you know that the CIA invented the term "conspiracy theorist" in the 1960s as a pejorative term (ad hominum-logical fallacy) to discredit a person's position on a subject. Brainwashing, as it were.
https://geoengineeringwatch.org/links-to-geoengineering-patents/
Wow, another excellent response! I pray that Mr. Packman spends some time investigating here on Dane's site and gets a clue. I loved your comment on his failure to "listen". So rare these days to find someone who really does.
I tried to leave that dude my message and I went thru the steps and nothing happened. He needs to listen to the facts either way and research it himself. Obviously he hasn’t!!!
I emailed Pakman, too. Ugh.
Same here. Gave out all my info, wrote a thank you letter and got the "page not available" bs. This is strange indeed. Must be making some a bit concerned about hearing the truth for once.
In the SF bay area we have three airports too. We also have many military bases nearby as well. He may have been looking for you to say or not say that the commercial/looking jets spray this also. It seems to be many silver planes lately which says military to me. Our skies were covered with lines but how our planes fly into the nearest airport it is all one way and very little variance. I think the lines are higher up and further out. Once a line went from Mendicino to Pebble Beach. It is like Dane says. What airport does that route?
Dane, my friend I have met and ALL,
Geesh, I remember when this video first came out. Dane's "performance" was one of several things that clinched it for me as to "who ya gonna listen to?" After watching this video that has been stacked in the back of my mind, it brought several thoughts to mind. As I first started to re-listen to the excruciating 16 minutes Dane had to tolerate with such a punk, I got kind of mad, but then as I listened on, I noticed how systematically Dane unraveled a presupposed script and made the producers and writers of the "punk" show look like monkeys scrambling for a banana. Well done my friend I have met. I commend you for calling them out.
Folks, I have a suggestion for you(if you want one). Listen and watch this interview over and over, over several weeks. Watch it until it sinks in how important it is to speak like the defender of our planet that Dane has become. We "have to think like that", and "speak like that". "How you speak is how you think". Over time I've had several people stop by and try their very best to unravel what I am trying to sound the alarm about. "None", and I proudly write that, have yet to succeed. "All have been sent away with more facts than their minds can hold". Several have come back to "discuss things further". These people drive me. "How many more can I dig up?" I'm gonna find out!! I will dig in that soil of humanity until my last breath. Maybe someone will take my place when I'm gone, "we'll see".
Shovel in the soil and face to the wind,
'a' simple horseman
That is a great idea, exactly what I am going to do.
'a' simple horseman, like Dane, you surely live and know the wisdom of the Upanishads: "Watch your thoughts; they become your words. Watch your words; they become your actions. Watch your actions; they become your habits. Watch your habits; they become your character. Watch your character, for it becomes your destiny."
You both are a blessing to countless souls through your noble character and deeds. Thank you.
In "mile high" Denver, the high temperature today was 77 degrees F. This November is shaping up to be the first snowless November in Denver since 1949.
our weather in the South Dakota Black Hills has changed.
I was here when the beautiful sunny day turned into rain, temps dropped, and massive amounts of cattle froze to death.
from a beautiful day, leaves still on the trees, to change to “feb” weather.
Ive lived here over 20 years and NEVER seen this.
I think what he might have been looking for is how you say that the bees are dying from the geoengineering spray and you know this because they show signs of alheimers which comes from heavy metals and they should because they have 70 times the amount of aluminum that people do. When I went to Seattle, one of the spraying planes was parellel to us and our pilots would not let them get above us or in front of us. On the freeway one day, a plane was only about 15 stories above us and turned on all four barrels on people on the freeway. The sun was shimmering like the films of Eiro Jima; that is metal particles. Let's see him dispute that I even think I have a bottle of a sample of the air.
Just tried to send him my thoughts and it said unable to deliver etc… What? Is Pakman getting hammered by the truth and not accepting anymore?
Hi @Carol,
The same thing happened to me on the first try. I waited 15 minutes and it went through the second time. I'm sure he is getting many comments on how he conducted this interview.
David Pakman will relish the comments, but his sponsors certainly won't – especially telling them that you 'won't' listen to his broadcasts, and why. https://davidpakman.com/sponsors/
Dane … So many years now you have stood your ground with these types. I honestly don’t know how you do it. So many really do seem incorrigibly blind to what is blatant in the sky above us. They sprayed like crazy here on the Olympic Peninsula today, quickly covering the sky with toxic dispersions. A friend of mine finally got his sister in AZ to understand the reality — but it was really only because she is getting sick with all the classic symptoms. Is that what it will take? Will it take a plague and famine to wake the sleep-walking deniers up? The world gets more bizarre by the day. Thank you, as always for your courage and adamantine Will. I shall refrain from any comment on his character.
Let’s assume it’s real and happening and let the shills prove it’s not happening.
Well at least he let you have the last word on the subject and then recommended people go to your website and seemed to give encouragement that the content you promote should be investigated. Over here these in the UK, these programs are very intense with whole fleets of high altitude jet planes dispersing particulates virtually every day, without fail. We never get the all-day deep azure blue skies even in summer. Sometimes we start blue but usually by mid-day if not later the planes arrive and the aerial assault on our skies start and within a few hours the blue skies are gone and we have fake cloud cover. Sometimes you can even see colours in the skies where the sunlight is being refracted by the metal particles. Very occasionally one can also smell the stuff – a kind of salty metallic smell.
Hi, Dane,
Thanks for providing the link. I was more than happy to tell David Pakman how childish and ignorant he sounded during this so-called interview. He obviously had an agenda and failed miserably in his quest to make you look foolish. Instead, he ruined his credibility as a reporter to me.
The shill's name is appropriate. I face these type of people everyday of my life, and my ability to not grab them by the neck shows how much I've matured , albeit too late. As a friend of mine said " Too soon old, too late smart".
As the walls close in, i'm amazed at the hubris and hypocrisy of most people, saying " I know our government wouldn't do this to us "
Guess again, obeying sheep.
Tom –
Where you said you're "amazed at the hubris and hypocrisy of most people, saying 'I know our government wouldn't do this to us,'" I would also add that those people also have a combination of woeful and/or willful ignorance.
Agreed. I tell so many people, " I can give you this information, but I can't make you understand it or force you to read it." I check with others a couple weeks after I give them the material. After my questions I find 95% haven't even looked at it.
Gotta keep trying though !
(((packman)))
LOL